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  Armageddon = Cancer ?

  by RollerDaughter in

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  here's some food for thought.... the center for science in the public interest tries to control everything we eat, thinking that everything causes cancer.

  there's always something new that causes cancer!.

  the witness try to control everything we do, thinking that everything is a sign that armageddon is near..... maybe there's some kind of parallel there.. what do you think?

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  big difference between science "in the public interest" and cult control, I think.
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  The Third Chimpanzee by Jared Diamond

  by Happy Harvester in

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  i am reading this now.

  i think we should have a book discussion group at this forum.

  any takers?

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  I am reading this now. Anyone else? I think we should have a book discussion group at this forum. Any takers? Science for beginners? Philosophy for old farts? niteynite!
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  Wow! Nobel Winner Says Blacks Less Intelligent

  by Justitia Themis in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2007/tech/science/10/18/science.race/index.html.

  a british museum has canceled a lecture by dr. james watson, co-discoverer of the dna double helix, after he claimed black people are less intelligent than whites in a recent newspaper interview.. watson, who won the 1962 nobel prize for his part in discovering the structure of dna, provoked a storm of criticism after his comments were published in the sunday times.. the eminent biologist told the british newspaper he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours -- whereas all the testing says not really.".

  watson, 79, had been due to give a lecture at london's science museum on friday but the museum canceled his appearance, saying his comments had "gone beyond the point of acceptable debate.".

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  Hope you feel better soon, mkr. I'm very tired and going to bed. I don't think it's necessary to call people dumb for sharing their feelings and opinions on the matter because it's just as much an emotional issue as it is a "scientific" one. I do agree with the point you are trying to make about backing up what one argues with sound research. "Argument from incredulity" doesn't hold water in the world of scientists, true, but most of us here are not scientists; we're just friends learning and sharing ideas and experiences.

  I think Richard Dawkins wrote a pretty good chapter on the issue of race - as mostly a social construct - in The Ancestor's Tale (and probably elsewhere).

  Maybe we could all read that chapter and have a discussion on it? Or perhaps we could start some kind of online book discussion groups on some of the topics we like to discuss here with other jwd-ers? It might be fun, and good exercise for the mind.

  Hope you get rid of your headache!
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  How has your 2007 been? A summary...

  by wanderlustguy in

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  my year so farwonder if anyone else had as sucky of a 2007 as i did?

  aka for all of you worldly non witness folk who want to know how it is being with an ex jwhere you go, a little sample, unfiltered.. .

  january just got done taking the gf to see the familyfeeling good because the experience made us closer, finally sharing a piece of what i came from.

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  I started to say, "glad I'm not the only one struggling" this year, but really, I wish no one had been through any of the junk they've been through. It's been a sorta' sucky year in a number of ways. Hopefully, things will improve. If they don't, they don't. One way or another, it'll all be over with eventually, which can be viewed as a blessing or not, depending on how you look at it.
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  Do you suffer INTELLECTUAL STARVATION?

  by Terry in

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  symptoms of intellectual starvation:.

  1.purposelessness, time-wasting, apathy, cynical desuetude.. 2.aimless hobbies that run out the clock.

  3.fluff reading.

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  Happy Harvester

  I've been reading a lot of science lately. I felt like a suicide the other night, but it passed. oh well.

  Yes, I have suffered intellectual starvation. That's one of the reasons for getting rid of my t.v. last year. I've read a lot more since then; however, emotional fulfilment is elusive.

  I think it is okay to have fun and to be entertained, but not chronically at the expense of mental exercise.

  My brain has almost gone into torpor due to my chronic unconscious need for escape from pain, over the years.

  I think emotional pain therefore makes it harder to exercise mentally; it's much easier to vegetate in front of the tele with or without a beer; or read a fluff mag or romance novel to melt away the pain that never goes away.

  Concentrating on intellectual topics is profoundly challenging when unidentified, free-floating emotions clog the mind. Anyway, some of us are trying to get past this.
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  Wow! Nobel Winner Says Blacks Less Intelligent

  by Justitia Themis in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2007/tech/science/10/18/science.race/index.html.

  a british museum has canceled a lecture by dr. james watson, co-discoverer of the dna double helix, after he claimed black people are less intelligent than whites in a recent newspaper interview.. watson, who won the 1962 nobel prize for his part in discovering the structure of dna, provoked a storm of criticism after his comments were published in the sunday times.. the eminent biologist told the british newspaper he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours -- whereas all the testing says not really.".

  watson, 79, had been due to give a lecture at london's science museum on friday but the museum canceled his appearance, saying his comments had "gone beyond the point of acceptable debate.".

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  You may be right, mkr, if the Wiki discussion of the matter is accurate.

  What study is ridiculous?
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  Wow! Nobel Winner Says Blacks Less Intelligent

  by Justitia Themis in

  1. jw
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  http://www.cnn.com/2007/tech/science/10/18/science.race/index.html.

  a british museum has canceled a lecture by dr. james watson, co-discoverer of the dna double helix, after he claimed black people are less intelligent than whites in a recent newspaper interview.. watson, who won the 1962 nobel prize for his part in discovering the structure of dna, provoked a storm of criticism after his comments were published in the sunday times.. the eminent biologist told the british newspaper he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours -- whereas all the testing says not really.".

  watson, 79, had been due to give a lecture at london's science museum on friday but the museum canceled his appearance, saying his comments had "gone beyond the point of acceptable debate.".

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  Happy Harvester

  You know, I was about to get offended by his comment, but the guy has not aged well. He looks like the Crypt Keeper, for crying out loud:

  Thanks for discovering DNA.

  Now keep your mouth shut.

  And Crick wasn't the only one to "discover" how DNA is structured. Hopefully, Rosalind Franklin will haunt this guy into his grave, speaking of crypt-keepers! From Wikipedia:

  The rules of the Nobel Prize forbid posthumous nominations, [89] ; because Rosalind Franklin had died in 1958 she was not eligible for nomination to the Nobel Prize subsequently awarded to Crick, Watson, and Wilkins in 1962. [90] The award was for their body of work on nucleic acids and not exclusively for the discovery of the structure of DNA. [91] By the time of the award Wilkins had been working on the structure of DNA for over 10 years, and had done much to confirm the Crick-Watson model. [92] Crick had been working on the genetic code at Cambridge and Watson had worked on RNA for some years. [93]
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  Wow! Nobel Winner Says Blacks Less Intelligent

  by Justitia Themis in

  1. jw
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  http://www.cnn.com/2007/tech/science/10/18/science.race/index.html.

  a british museum has canceled a lecture by dr. james watson, co-discoverer of the dna double helix, after he claimed black people are less intelligent than whites in a recent newspaper interview.. watson, who won the 1962 nobel prize for his part in discovering the structure of dna, provoked a storm of criticism after his comments were published in the sunday times.. the eminent biologist told the british newspaper he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours -- whereas all the testing says not really.".

  watson, 79, had been due to give a lecture at london's science museum on friday but the museum canceled his appearance, saying his comments had "gone beyond the point of acceptable debate.".

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  Just so everyone knows, Watson and Crick stole a prepublication version of a paper from Rosalind Franklin, a woman, who had discovered the real structure of DNA through DNA x-ray diffraction. They presented her information as their own and gave her a brief footnote mention.

  So let's see, who is less intelligent here?

  Yes, erynw, I remember an interview with an author on Franklin. Thanks for that important reminder. I'm going to look up the book and read it; I'd forgotten about that disgusting little fact about Crick's work.
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  FORGIVENESS

  by tula in

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  are you obligated to forgive someone.

  ......if they do not ask for forgiveness.

  ......if they show no remorse for the transgression.

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  Happy Harvester

  Sometimes people grow and change and sometimes they don't. Forgiveness is growth. Forgetting is denial, and denial would get in the way of growth and letting go. Accepting what is/was without judgement is no natural task, at least not for those trained to do otherwise.
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  Grandparents and money schemes/scams

  by darkuncle29 in

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  2. family

  hi peoples, .

  do any of you have experience with your parents or grandparents getting hooked on money making scams, publisher's clearing house, or other "schemes" where people call and use high pressure sales tactics and manipulation to get you to buy there program?.

  i know this is not jw stuff, but to me, it pushes alot of the same buttons.

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  Can (or should) he be declared incompetent?